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Notes

Notes

Interwiki

I might fill the interwiki red links faster if I had the rights. --Anime Addict 20:35, 6 July 2011 (EDT)

Mass upload

Finally figured out how to mass upload articles and adding the {{wiki}}{{2011}} tags to them in the same time. --Anime Addict 20:06, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

And how did you do that? Fred Bauder 20:18, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Downloaded the xml, opened with notepad, found a sequence that stayed fix at the end of each article, copied it, replaced all instances with "{{wiki}}{{2011}} followed by the same sequence". A bit tedious, but does the work. --Anime Addict 20:23, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Pretty nice for a first try :) --Anime Addict 20:54, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Mali

How did you manage to make those Mali imports? They were very scattered in each category. Did you change the years in the "Import from category" tab one by one, or did you have another method? --Anime Addict 06:41, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

I don't remember what category I started with, but I added the contents of some subcategories also. Fred Bauder 08:08, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Interwiki

They still don't appear on the left. --Anime Addict 15:42, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Plus, if you add "Wikinfo" to the interwiki table, titles like Wikinfo:Pagename (i.e. Wikinfo:Original research) won't work here anymore. --Anime Addict 15:43, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Am I an Administrator in Spanish Wikinfo?

Did you or Anime Addict give me Administrator tools in Spanish Wikinfo? If this is so, thanks a lot for trusting me. I hope to be worthy of it.--Pablo Martí­n Zampini 22:45, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

Yes, I did; please use your tools responsibly. Fred Bauder 18:32, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

I began expanding Spanish Wikinfo with enthusiasm

I have imported nine articles from Wikipedia, and Animé Addict added one more. I also recruited my brother Diego, who added two more articles. As you should know, even importing articles takes a lot of time. Images are imported automatically, but templates don´t work, so I'm taking the job of removing all the "country infobox", "main article" and "see also" templates from the articles on countries. In these articles I "created" the style of adding the images of the flag and map of the country in question, by the introduction of the article. Once I have imported the articles I consider more relevant, I will begin editing them, so not to have mere copies of WP's articles.

One more issue; my brother Diego is a teacher on computers, and he is teaching his teenage students how to edit wikisites. In my hometown we have only one Internet service provider, so there are only two or three IPs in the entire town. Because there was some vandalism from the same IP that my brother's account, his account was indefinitely blocked, and the creation of more account disabled. So, he cannot teach his student how to use a wikisite. Yesterday, when I invited him to participated in this project, he asked me to allow him and his students to both teach them and make useful addition to Wikinfo. I answered him that I have to consult you on this first; he commited himself to monitor and check every edition his students may do. If it is all right with you, I would allow him to do his teaching as long as it is for our benefit. I also commit myself to monitor every single edition his students will do, and block them if neccesary. What do you think?--Pablo Martí­n Zampini 21:57, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

You need to import the templates also. I'll unblock the ip. Fred Bauder 22:32, 8 September 2011 (EDT)
I can't figure out what the ip is. It might be blocked on the Main Wikinfo, but I don't think it is blocked on the Spanish Wikinfo. I'll make you an administrator on the main Wikinfo and you can unblock it yourself if you can find it. Fred Bauder 22:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)
  • I don't know how to import the templates, could you explain me how to?
    • Basically, you go to the Spanish Wikipedia and copy them. You need to add {{11}} between <noinclude> and </noinclude> also. Look at Template:11 here to see what the content of Template:11 needs to be. Fred Bauder 08:27, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  • Sorry, but I did not explain it clearly; my brother's account was blocked in both Wikipedias (Spanish and English) apparently because there was vandalism coming from the same IP used by my brother (and half my hometown). He hasn't had any trouble working with Wikinfo yet. Sorry I made you waste time looking for a problem that did not exist.
    • I can help legitimate editors create accounts on Wikipedia that bypass the block. Have them email me. Fred Bauder 08:27, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  • Ah, I forgot to tell you that -in all the articles that I imported- I left links for future versions in English, French, Italian, Portuguese, Latin and Romanian.
    • That might work. Fred Bauder 08:27, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  • Again, thanks for the honour of being an Administrator; I'll do my best not to let you down, and I will be gentle to others.--Pablo Martí­n Zampini 00:12, 9 September 2011 (EDT)

I keep expanding Spanish Wikinfo with enthusiasm

I apologize for any excess at importing articles from WP; it is just out of my enthusiasm. I'm just intending the articles look as well as they do in the original; once I finish importing the templates of countries' flags and geodata, the rate of importing will immediately decrease. Any way, I will take your advice seriously. I didn't know about the "11" and "Media Wiki" templates, tomorrow I will install it in all the imported articles.

I don't intend to import all the articles from WP -that's impossible, of course-; I just intend to import the articles on countries, continents, oceans, empires, important historical events, wars, national heroes and some head-of-state people. Once I reach that goal, I will focus on articles about the ethnic composition of several countries or continents. If you have any objection or concern about my plans, please tell me.

I've been contacting WP editors who may be upset with some WP's policies so to "recruit" them, but so far nobody else -apart from my brother Diego- has replied or created account in Wikinfo. Again, I thank you for the opportunity you have given me; I'll do my best not to disappoint you.--Pablo Martí­n Zampini 21:01, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

I'm not a fan of ethnic explorations; although it is often fun to explore one's own ethnic background. It is up to you to handle such issues appropriately. Fred Bauder 21:54, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

"11" Template

I've already added the "11" template in all the articles that I imported from WP, and I will add it in all coming imports. I didn't check the articles added by Animé Addict, for I don't know if they were imported from WP or not. Is it also necessary to add this template in all the imported countries' templates? The text built in the template reads "article", not template. Besides, I saw you are importing interwiki links, while I was removing them from the country flags' templates. If you plan to continue importing them, I will not remove them in further imports. Hope you are well. --Pablo Martín Zampini 08:38, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

We need template:11, or the equivalent, on anything we import from another wiki, including templates. I want to set up interwiki links to all the Wikipedia languages. With respect to interwiki Wikinfo links please use the form "rowf" or the equivalent, rowf links to the Romanian Wikinfo. Fred Bauder 09:08, 26 September 2011 (EDT)
I'd be happy with at least the upper half of the Wikipedia languages in number of articles or contributors, and eventually some others that are negliged or hijacked by interest groups on their own language. --Anime Addict 11:22, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
How about Klingon? There was some controversy on removing it from Wikipedia, since it attracted many Star Trek enthusiasts, it's got its own (not so much wikiish) domain now and may be a good ramp for new content. --Anime Addict 11:22, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
Anything that I added with {{wiki}}{{2011}} on any subdomain of Wikinfo is from the respective language equivalent of Wikipedia. In general, on Spanish Wikinfo, I didn't add anything that wasn't from Wikipedia because I hardly know the language. --Anime Addict 11:22, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
If we don't have at least one active editor who is fluent we can't do the language. Fred Bauder 12:01, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
I disagree in this aspect. It's an argument on the chicken and the egg while we want hens, if I'll be pardoned a metaphor. An already started domain will (eventually) attract interested users, while the method of asking at the Village Pump for new language domain isn't too intuitive. I, for example, would be too happy to transfer all the language version of an article from Wikipedia to its respective domains, since in some cases if the English article is deleted, there'll be a landslide there. Then, someone may stumble into them, start modifying them and from there the wiki would catch life. --Anime Addict 17:20, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

Hey

Remember this former issue? --Anime Addict 17:17, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

Interesting Fred Bauder 18:10, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

Problems with the dependence template

Gretings, Mr. Bauder:

  • May be you'll pleased to know that Spanish Wikinfo has now 207 articles, most imported or written by me. I recruited my brother, but he's been busy and his aportations are scanty. I also tried to recruit some expelled users from WP, but that hasn't worked much yet. Any way, I'm positive that, when diappointed WP users eventually discover this site, they will join us and news will spread.
  • I'm having a problem with the template of dependencies, provinces, states, etc. I copied and pasted the articles from WP without altering the template, but when I imported Macao and Hong Kong articles, all the text below the template appears locked inside the box, and not outside. Could you help me fix this malfunction? Thanks a lot.
  • I greet you again, and I hope you are doing fine in your personal life.--Pablo Martín Zampini 12:26, 8 November 2011 (EST)
    • Removing the documentation template from the bottom of the infobox template {{documentación}} fixed it. The template documentation templates are messed up in some way. Fred Bauder 13:30, 8 November 2011 (EST)

Is there a technical problem with Wikinfo?

Regards; sorry to bother you, Mr. Bauder. It's been a week now since Spanish Wikinfo has some technical problem. If I click on any link the banner "Service Temporarily Unavailable" appears all the time. I have to reload the pages twice or thrice so that they display properly. Is there any temporary technical problem with Wikinfo? It seems the same happens in English Wikinfo. --Pablo Martí­n Zampini 17:59, 23 February 2012 (EST)

I believe the difficulties are related to lack of memory and perhaps bandwidth allocated to Wikinfo by ibiblio. Fred Bauder 18:04, 23 February 2012 (EST)

When you restore main Wikinfo? All my original research articles are not accessible. Wikinfo 13:35, 29 July 2012 (EDT)

I'm not sure. It will just take a moment to restore it once I figure out what is causing pages to not display. The database is OK and just sitting there waiting. Fred Bauder 14:00, 29 July 2012 (EDT)

So I wait. Thanks for explanation. Wikinfo 14:17, 29 July 2012 (EDT)

Wow, I'm having problems. I can't login in. It is giving me the "Wikinfo English Page" I can't access anything. I had to create a whole new account under a different name. This is User:WHEELER. I can't read my original articles. Clinias 16:25, 30 July 2012 (EDT)

I hope to get that fixed in a few days. Fred Bauder 17:53, 30 July 2012 (EDT)

Thank you for specifying fixup time. I was worried that this could last one month. Wikinfo 05:50, 31 July 2012 (EDT)

So am I. At this point I am stumped. Fred Bauder 07:37, 31 July 2012 (EDT)

I think that Wikinfo does not display because of GZIP compression enabled. Try comment out in LocalSettings.php something like:
33   #     if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler' );
and perhaps not displaying will be gone. I found solution here: http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?4079-wiki-not-showing-after-install Wikinfo 11:38, 31 July 2012 (EDT)

During past month (July), I worked chiefly in Croatian Wikinfo; last days I intended to return in the Main Wikinfo, but iteratively one redirected me toward English Wikinfo. The main problem now is there the inaccessibility of the included articles in French, Latin, Italian etc. within this Main wiki. - On the other hand, in this occasion I propose also if possible, to create a separate www.wikinfo.org/Latina/ (= Vichinfo in Lingua Latina): now in the Main Wikinfo occur 107 articles written in Latin, and in this case I intend to copy/transfer them in that new wiki. Azlovric 15:05, 05 August 2012 (EDT)

I am working on the problem with the main Wikinfo. Current plans are to move it to www.wikinfo.org/Multilingual The database is intact. I'm not sure what is causing pages to not load. Probably something simple but I'm stumped for now. I can do a latin Wikinfo, but I need to resolve these main Wikinfo problem first. Fred Bauder 09:09, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
I saw that to have main Wikinfo accessible, you already connected its database to older MediaWiki under www.wikinfo.org/Multilingual. Thank you. I am sometimes able to access it and retrieve wikicode, see: http://www.wikinfo.org/Multilingual/index.php/Code2000 Wikinfo 13:08, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
Yes, just installed it at http://www.wikinfo.org/Multilingual/index.php/Main_Page Needs a lot more work... Fred Bauder 13:20, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
Now Multilingual Wikinfo ceased to display. But when it displayed it distorted page layout, while showing wikicode intact. Wikinfo 13:59, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
Uploading and enabling extensions now. Fred Bauder 14:06, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
I think that best solution would be to have former main Wikinfo under multilingual Wikinfo like other localized Wikinfo sites, while using current main Wikinfo for risky tests and risky updates which once corrupted former main Wikinfo database. In this way all risky procedures will be preverified on main Wikinfo, before repeating them safely on multilingual Wikinfo and on localized Wikinfo sites. In this way editors will have no breaks in access to their content. Wikinfo 15:05, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
I like this new development. Can I change wf: to go to http://www.wikinfo.org/Multilingual/index.php/$1 instead of http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/$1 or is this change still in testing? I also like the "Multilingual Wikinfo" name better than "Main Wikinfo". --Anime Addict 15:11, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
Please change it, although fixing all the problems will take a few weeks. A permanent change. I'll redo the main page as a regular html page giving options to link to a language wiki or to the multilingual version. Fred Bauder 15:22, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
As far as I can see at a quick glance, the histories haven't carried over. That means, unless you can restore Main as at least read-only links, much of the material in Multilingual will be violating the copyright licence. Peter jackson 10:57, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Please provide an example of loss of history; I find the editing history unchanged. Fred Bauder 11:22, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

I haven't been able to access an actual article, so all I have to go on is the Recent changes listing, which seems to have restarted from scratch. I'd assume changes that don't show up there wouldn't do so in the article histories either, but I could easily be wrong on that. Peter jackson 04:34, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
This is User:Wheeler. Just a note, Fred, still can't access anything on Wikinfo. I have a lot of information up that I constantly refer and need access to, so I can quote in other places. I know you are working hard. Thanks for your effort. I hope you and others can get Wikinfo up and running.Clinias 09:21, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Try http://www.wikinfo.org/Multilingual/index.php/Special:Contributions/WHEELER Fred Bauder 11:03, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Thanks. It worked. User:WheelerClinias 21:59, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Peter, I understand your concern, but Main Wikinfo still exists, it just moved here. Most of the articles I moved until now to the English Wikinfo are either those made by me or severely outdated since 2004 or less on Main Wikinfo, and that had no original content in them, so no need to keep history. If you think there's an article imported here that has been worked on Main Wikinfo and doesn't reflect this in the history page, go to Special:Export, copy-paste the name of the article there, uncheck "Include only the current revision, not the full history", click export, then go to Special:Import and import that file here. All of the revisions and their dates will be identical to those on the Multilingual Wikinfo. Please do this only on articles that have been added original content there. --Anime Addict 14:16, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Thanks. I actually managed to get that to work. Peter jackson 13:11, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

Couple of questions

  1. I see the contributions list for the ported page links to my user page here, not the one where it came from. So how does the system deal with people who may have contributed to articles there but have no account here, or use a different name? I was told somewhere that the reason wiki accounts are never closed, even when someone dies, is that there has to be an account to attribute edits to. But this porting system doesn't seem to have a built-in process for attributing edits to the right accounts.
  2. Can articles be ported from Wikipedia in the same way? That might be a good way of preserving attributions when articles are deleted over there.
Peter jackson 04:32, 14 August 2012 (EDT)
We can import editing histories, but I'd much rather just leave them on Wikipedia. One problem is that it is confusing to have edits apparently made by someone here, that actually have accounts somewhere else. Articles where there are significant contributions from more than one wiki probably pose an unsolvable problem for the GNU Free Documentation License. Fred Bauder 06:03, 14 August 2012 (EDT)
Only where the history is no longer available, because either the article has been deleted or the whole site is down. Peter jackson 13:35, 16 August 2012 (EDT)
Anyway, in our situation, now that Main has been restored as ML, the best way of complying with the licence is for articles moved here from Main to be linked back to the histories in ML.
That is a correct interpretation of the GNU Free Documentation License. Fred Bauder 07:50, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
On a separate issue, have you got separate bandwidth allocations (or whatever the correct technical term is) from ibiblio for different WIs? I get the impression that ML is working more slowly than this. If so, it would presumably be a good idea to move things here as much as possible. Peter jackson 05:01, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
No, they have allocated only a very small amount of memory; an amount which is insufficient to run one wiki, let alone half a dozen. The matter has been discussed and until they either have more money or resources, or their policy changes, we have less than we need. I don't think there is a bandwidth problem; the bottleneck is allocated memory for operations. It is nearly impossible to run php runJobs.php which is a very memory intensive aspect of Mediawiki. Fred Bauder 07:50, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
Actually, it's worse than that. I see I've made 7 edits to this page in recent days, & I don't remember any problems. But on ML I often get error messages. When I tried a few minutes ago it seemed to crash the computer (might be coincidence of course). I've moved to another. Peter jackson 05:13, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
I've had that problem with some articles, and imported articles. The installed software is not optimized for UTF-8 which causes more processing to be done that is optimal. Again, lack of responsiveness of ibiblio is the problem. The basic problem is because we have very low volume and take up lots of database space we are not their favorite. It's a catch 22, because we have limited resources, we run poorly, because we run poorly we have less traffic and diminished prospect of getting any, thus less allocation of resources. Thank God Wikipedia declined their offer of hosting. Imagine where Wikipedia would be begging them for memory and bandwidth; with the legislature of North Carolina and the administration of UNC in the background with financial stresses. Fred Bauder 07:50, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
OK, so it's not a matter of which site, it's which article. So the obvious next question is, what is it about articles that causes problems? Are they too long? Is it a matter of images? Or templates? Internal links? External links? If we know what causes problems we can try to reduce them. Or is it the histories, which we can't reduce? If so, if it's essentially the work of a single contributor, we might simply move it here without history, just with a straightforward attribution. Peter jackson 10:13, 20 August 2012 (EDT)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Too long is a problem. If you don't want to do a truncated article, the best solution is a link to the Wikipedia page. A few articles contain coding which poses problem, typically some process which does not complete. I don't usually import histories, a link to the history on the original wiki is sufficient. Fred Bauder 10:29, 20 August 2012 (EDT)

Actually, traffic-wise, having half a dozen wikis shouldn't be a problem. Worst-case-scenario, those articles would have gone to the Multilingual Wikinfo instead and put even more pressure on it. Now at least, there's less pressure on ML and it's spread out. All of the language Wikinfos combined have less articles than the English Wikinfo currently has. Memory-usage wise, on the other hand... --Anime Addict 12:59, 27 August 2012 (EDT)
OK, suggestion. Go through all the red links on the main page, pasting in something along these lines:

"There is no article here yet. If you wish to write one, please remember Wikinfo's policy of SPOV. Alternatively, or in addition, feel free to add appropriate material under the following headings.

  • Links to related articles here, including lists, outlines and categories.
  • Links to parallel (& related?) articles on other Wikinfos.
  • Other internet links.
  • Print material."

Peter jackson 06:18, 23 August 2012 (EDT)

Extension:Boilerplate used to do something like that. It doesn't seem to work with Mediawiki 19.1. The message is at boilerplate; it may be edited. Fred Bauder 06:23, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
I was suggesting a strategy, not asking technical advice.
Speaking of technical advice, I've improvised this message when a logged-in user goes to an inexistent page (see for example this, last line) Message is "If a link from the Multilingual Wikinfo lead you here, check here.". However, I don't know how to make this display to unlogged users. I'll add that message to the editing boilerplate, if nobody minds. --Anime Addict 12:59, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

As I understand it, someone typing wikinfo into a search engine or www.wikinfo.org into the address bar will end up at enwf main page. There they'll be confronted with a red sea sprinkled with a few blue islands. Not a good initial impression. I was suggesting a way of dealing with this, having useful pages where we haven't got a main article, without clogging up the system with pointless duplication of WP material. Peter jackson 12:57, 23 August 2012 (EDT)

Redirect

Any chance of making the URL redirection from wikinfo.org to wikinfo.org/English actually redirect to the respective articles and not to the main page? It shouldn't be too hard. The way it is, it'll give anyone who clicks a Wikinfo links the impression that the article no longer exists. It's unlikely they'll have the attention span to manually search the article instead of dismissing Wikinfo for Wikipedia or for other sites. --Anime Addict 17:19, 5 August 2012 (EDT)

No, daunting project beyond me, although technically possible. 18:23, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
Due to the corruption of text which Main suffered it should not be our front page. Fred Bauder 11:28, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
Nor, by the way, should any page or template with corrupted text from Main be imported to any language Wikinfo. Fred Bauder 11:05, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
I disagree. There is often some interesting original research in those pages, and being deleted would be a waste. Better have something corrupt if we have nothing to replace it with. If it comes to it, I can make a table for myself to see what displays wrong and what to replace the character with, and I'll clean up the articles myself, whatever language they'd belong to. --Anime Addict 14:37, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Wicked amount of work involved. Fred Bauder 14:43, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Isn't that the life story of Wikinfo? :) It'd be worth it to save articles. --15:05, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
I didn't say to redirect to the name of the multilingual page. I said to redirect to the /English name of the page. If someone has the link for http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/Text, he should be redirected to http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php/Text, not to http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php/Main_Page. --Anime Addict 14:37, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
What would be the coding? Fred Bauder 14:43, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
I don't know, but I know it's possible. I'll look into it. --Anime Addict 15:05, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
I think adapting this code may make is work:
"To redirect any URL starting with (say) www.example.com to example.com, add the following code to your .htaccess file.
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.example\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://example.com/$1 [R=301,L]
Source: [1] --Anime Addict 15:15, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Ah, this is more clear-cut. --Anime Addict 15:16, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
Doesn't work. Enough for one day... Fred Bauder 15:55, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

That mod_rewrite stuff is really hard. See also mw:Manual:Short_URL. I get all kinds of warning messages in my error log about my .htaccess, and even a lot of errors, but I don't know how to fix them. It seems daunting. Nathan Larson 03:19, 8 August 2012 (EDT)

One more problem

Everything starting with [[Portal: ]] on Main Wikinfo no longer display. The content is probably still in the database, but it's unreachable. The pages display in the form of [[:Current events]] instead of [[Portal:Current events]], but there's no way to see them or edit them. --Anime Addict 19:04, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

I can fix that. Fred Bauder 19:35, 7 August 2012 (EDT)


Boris Skossyreff

I know I have been only intermittently active on Wikinfo - but what became of my article on Boris Skossyreff here? Jackiespeel 11:07, 8 August 2012 (EDT)

http://www.wikinfo.org/Multilingual/index.php/Boris_Skossyreff Fred Bauder 11:29, 8 August 2012 (EDT)

Moral guardian

Can you recover Moral guardian here from Wikipedia? Thanks. --Anime Addict 17:24, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

Soft hyphen

My opinion on it so far. What do you think? Is it ok and technically viable to implement it here? It'd make Title according to John and Title according to Smith to redirect to a name that would only state Title­, while being different than the actual Title article. --Anime Addict 08:29, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

I don't understand this, I'll import Soft hyphen and see if I understand more. Fred Bauder 09:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
Did you read that first link? Simply put, as things are right now, here and on Wikipedia, we have to disambiguate subjects of the same name. So you have John Smith, right? That's a general name. But you have dozens of other John Smiths. As we are, Wikipedia goes with the titles "John Smith (doctor from India that has a doctorate in San Francisco and lives in San Andreas)", "John Smith (doctor from India who lives in the Antilles)" etc. Now, those names are cloggy and bother the users and readers with unnecessary information in the title. Now, there's this string of characters, "%C2%AD". It doesn't appears as space, as _, as anything in the title of the article, it only appears in the title bar. So if I bracket "John Smith%C2%AD", I get John Smith­. The title is different from simply bracketed "John Smith", but to the eye, it doesn't look different. Now I can have bracketed "John Smith%C2%AD%C2%AD", "John Smith%C2%AD%C2%AD%C2%AD", and they'll all look like bracketed simply "John Smith", but they'll be completely different pages. My question is, will an upgrade mess with this and confuse the characters, or will it keep them? Please see the external link I posted above for more information and for how it looks. --Anime Addict 11:32, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
Practical examples: Test­, Test­­, Test­­­. Open them in three different tabs please. Compare. --Anime Addict 11:35, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
OK, Test­­­­. I don't like it as it is not transparent to a casual editor. Fred Bauder 13:14, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
It can be. John Smith (physician) can redirect there. All users will type John Smith (physician). They'll just end up at a page simply called "John Smith". They'll probably be pleased. The article will explain from the first line that this John Smith is a physician, so there'll be little or no confusion. --Anime Addict 13:24, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
Just do it. I'm not going to make it policy though. It should survive an update as well as any other special character. Fred Bauder 13:27, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
Cool, thanks. --Anime Addict 13:41, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

What happened?

http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php?title=Special:Log&dir=prev – Did you reset the wiki or something? Some articles are missing, and many more are missing their page histories. --Michaeldsuarez 20:16, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

Never mind. I've found the original wiki. --Michaeldsuarez 20:22, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
You probably mean this. What's Special:Log got to do with it? --Anime Addict 14:27, 16 October 2012 (EDT)

Error

When I try to access Demographics of Buddhism I get this message: [e0a1d7a5] 2014-06-19 17:22:51: Fatal exception of type ScribuntoException. Peter jackson (talk) 17:24, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

The problem is in Template:Buddhism topics Fred Bauder (talk) 18:28, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Solved by re-uploading the Scribunto extension and making it executable. Fred Bauder (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Possible slander/libel of your account by User:Stranger in a strange land

Greetings.

The article at Sociopath appears to be slanderous and/or libelous towards your name. I am not sure what the policies are regarding matters such as this article. However, the author has stated that you had not seen it yet. If this is in fact true, I thought you should know about it.

greeter (talk) 03:54, 17 July 2016 (CDT)

Sorry about that... Fred Bauder (talk) 04:04, 17 July 2016 (CDT)
No problem. I'd much rather see something like that and report it than have it go unreported. greeter (talk) 04:16, 17 July 2016 (CDT)